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8/26/17 11:42 AM 

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8/26/17 12:17 PM 

driver406
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Never made any kids outside of marriage and became a track star running away from my new responsibilities. Never had to pay any, but I'm sure it kills all incentive for the guy to do better in life since the babe and taxes get most of any raise he might get.

8/26/17 12:19 PM 

enigmaathand
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Leavittsburg, OH


Child Support is nothing more than a LEGALIZED form of SLAVERY, that ONLY affects MEN

8/26/17 12:28 PM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from enigmaathand:
Child Support is nothing more than a LEGALIZED form of SLAVERY, that ONLY affects MEN
it's basically a loan without your consent


8/26/17 12:29 PM 

easttowest72
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How many do you have dark?

8/26/17 12:30 PM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from easttowest72:
How many do you have dark?
none.....how many guys dumped your ass


8/26/17 12:33 PM 

easttowest72
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None. I do all the dumping

So why are you stressing over child support.




[Edited 8/26/2017 12:34:31 PM ]

8/26/17 12:37 PM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from easttowest72:
None. I do all the dumping

So why are you stressing over child support.
who said I was???....
And yeah right...
The person who usually brags about doing the dumping most likely got dumped....baby daddy or ex hubby perhaps


8/26/17 12:50 PM 

easttowest72
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You know how women are when we get fed up.

8/26/17 1:17 PM 

packersbabe920
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Well if u got a child then take care of it, and that way u won't have to let child support all up in your business a lot of women, don't get the child support system involved cause the man is doing what he supposed to do and I'm one of them

8/26/17 1:24 PM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from easttowest72:
You know how women are when we get fed up.
so you condone digging man's pockets....gotcha


8/26/17 1:25 PM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from packersbabe920:
Well if u got a child then take care of it, and that way u won't have to let child support all up in your business a lot of women, don't get the child support system involved cause the man is doing what he supposed to do and I'm one of them
but you know the child support doesn't nesscessarily goes to the child right....
There are two side of the coin


8/26/17 2:24 PM 
lightbrownie1
Johnston, IA

Quote from dark_gable0585:
so you condone digging man's pockets....gotcha


No...I don't condone.

I think it should be equal in support, just like it should be equal in raising the child(ren.

Ive said this before and I say it again.
We as parents did not allow the State to dictate on what we should do in caring, providing, raising our 4 children because we love our children enough that we set our own rules and standards and agreed on them without an issue because of our love for our children.
It was not their fault that their mom and dad could no longer live together, therefore they didn't need to see us as their parents fuss and unhappy.
We have shown our kids that although we will not be all living under the same house, we will still celebrate birthdays and some holidays together.

We never divorced, so this is how we kept the State out of our business.
Neither one of us has met anyone that is worth us breaking up our standards and its been over 13 years...we only have one child left under the age of 18.

Most woman want revenge but most men are not responsible in prividing, or taking care of their children.
So...I say child support is needed, ESPECIALLY if the father does not show consistency in caring and providing for their child.


8/26/17 3:18 PM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from lightbrownie1:
No...I don't condone.

I think it should be equal in support, just like it should be equal in raising the child(ren.

Ive said this before and I say it again.
We as parents did not allow the State to dictate on what we should do in caring, providing, raising our 4 children because we love our children enough that we set our own rules and standards and agreed on them without an issue because of our love for our children.
It was not their fault that their mom and dad could no longer live together, therefore they didn't need to see us as their parents fuss and unhappy.
We have shown our kids that although we will not be all living under the same house, we will still celebrate birthdays and some holidays together.

We never divorced, so this is how we kept the State out of our business.
Neither one of us has met anyone that is worth us breaking up our standards and its been over 13 years...we only have one child left under the age of 18.

Most woman want revenge but most men are not responsible in prividing, or taking care of their children.
So...I say child support is needed, ESPECIALLY if the father does not show consistency in caring and providing for their child.
I was actually quoting east gold digger


8/26/17 3:19 PM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from lightbrownie1:
No...I don't condone.

I think it should be equal in support, just like it should be equal in raising the child(ren.

Ive said this before and I say it again.
We as parents did not allow the State to dictate on what we should do in caring, providing, raising our 4 children because we love our children enough that we set our own rules and standards and agreed on them without an issue because of our love for our children.
It was not their fault that their mom and dad could no longer live together, therefore they didn't need to see us as their parents fuss and unhappy.
We have shown our kids that although we will not be all living under the same house, we will still celebrate birthdays and some holidays together.

We never divorced, so this is how we kept the State out of our business.
Neither one of us has met anyone that is worth us breaking up our standards and its been over 13 years...we only have one child left under the age of 18.

Most woman want revenge but most men are not responsible in prividing, or taking care of their children.
So...I say child support is needed, ESPECIALLY if the father does not show consistency in caring and providing for their child.
or if their baby mama's wouldn't let them as well as kicking them out for government assistance


8/26/17 4:06 PM 
cupocheer
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Assumption, IL


Are you paying child support, OP, or committing child support fraud?

8/26/17 4:15 PM 

lucky_1million
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Pewaukee, WI

Quote from driver406:
Never made any kids outside of marriage and became a track star running away from my new responsibilities. Never had to pay any, but I'm sure it kills all incentive for the guy to do better in life since the babe and taxes get most of any raise he might get.


Gotta hate those feminists for making pre-marital sex and no-fault divorce A-Okay.


8/26/17 4:49 PM 

enigmaathand
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Leavittsburg, OH


Quote from dark_gable0585:
none.....how many guys dumped your ass
More than we could probably count.....


8/26/17 5:46 PM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from cupocheer:
Are you paying child support, OP, or committing child support fraud?
who said I have kids


8/26/17 6:00 PM 
cupocheer
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Assumption, IL


Who said I asked you if you had kids?

8/26/17 6:24 PM 
korbyn
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Something about Enemahand makes me want to beat him down to the ground and stomp on his f**king head until he has blood coming out of his ears.

8/26/17 7:32 PM 

M4mischief
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Supporting your own child is a fraud?...You do realize if people stepped up and were willing to support their children on their own that the courts would never have to be involved right?...Why should one parent have sole responsibility of supporting a child that it took two to create?....

8/26/17 9:42 PM 

packersbabe920
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
but you know the child support doesn't nesscessarily goes to the child right....
There are two side of the coin



I don't need two side If u have a bank account they will deposit it in there, or send it in a check


8/26/17 9:46 PM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from M4mischief:
Supporting your own child is a fraud?...You do realize if people stepped up and were willing to support their children on their own that the courts would never have to be involved right?...Why should one parent have sole responsibility of supporting a child that it took two to create?....
reaching are we


8/26/17 9:47 PM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from cupocheer:
Are you paying child support, OP, or committing child support fraud?
need anymore proof 9f your dumb questions


8/27/17 2:08 AM 

M4mischief
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Grand Prairie, TX


Quote from dark_gable0585:
reaching are we



I don't have to reach...its the truth...the only reason the court gets involved at all is usually because the parties cant or wont come to an agreement and only one parent is supporting the kids....


8/27/17 4:13 AM 

Suzhi
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I used to pay more per month than the court ordered me to, till the ex pissed me off.. She regretted that..

8/27/17 7:46 AM 

enigmaathand
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Leavittsburg, OH


Quote from dark_gable0585:
reaching are we
If Feminism didn't promote women divorcing so much, there would be no need for determining how a man should support his children.

But, lazy, selfish, entitled, backstabbing, lying, cheating skanks love trapping us with pregnancy, blaming all of it on us, and then make our lives pure hell, until we eventually leave, and then they want to cry "foul" and run to the judge like a victim.


8/27/17 8:04 AM 

bookwormtobutte
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I'm honestly not a huge fan of child support either.
My mom raised both my sister and I w/o it, both of our dads were irresponsible losers who didn't want anything to do with us and took off by the time we were 3. My mom didn't care, she never went to the state, our asked for a dime. The only people that helped her were her family, my grandma and granddaddy, they'd watch us especially while mom was working. I'm sure they gave her money from time to time to help us out. But that to me is what family does they take care of their own.


Now I know not everyone has the great family support system I grew up in. So for some it maybe necessary. But I've seen way too many women taking advantage of it and like someone else said using it as a revenge tool.

I hope to have a kid by sperm donor, but if I had it the conventional way, and the father wanted to walk away, I'd have him signing papers that gave up his parental rights then bye-bye.
If he wanted to stay around and contribute and be a positive influence on the kids life, I'd have him pay for the kid's private school, that way he can pay them directly and knows that its all going for the betterment of the child.


8/27/17 8:37 AM 

pbsback
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Clearfield, PA

Quote from M4mischief:
I don't have to reach...its the truth...the only reason the court gets involved at all is usually because the parties cant or wont come to an agreement and only one parent is supporting the kids....


Unless the one receiving the child support is greedy and wants the money..


8/27/17 8:48 AM 

xman379
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Richmond, VA

Quote from packersbabe920:
Well if u got a child then take care of it, and that way u won't have to let child support all up in your business a lot of women, don't get the child support system involved cause the man is doing what he supposed to do and I'm one of them


Problem is, the non custodial parent usually has little to no influence as to whether or not the state is involved.

Typically what happens is the custodial parent (typically the mother) questions the non custodial parent's fitness as a parent (typically the father) or is just plain selfish or spiteful and decides to cut the non custodial parent out of the child's life, attempting to raise the child/children independently.

Of course, the custodial parent usually learns pretty quickly that raising a child or children INDEPENDENTLY is a rather difficult task, financially. Once faced with this difficulty the custodial parent typically seeks GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE and it is at THIS point the non custodial parents LOSES ALL say in whether the state is involved.

When a custodial parent receives government assistance, the NON CUSTODIAL parent is SOLELY responsible for repayment of the assistance amount.

MANY non custodial parents (again, typically men) have found themselves in DEBT to state governments due to government assistance to women who have children that the men didn't even know were their children or even existed.

In many other cases, where the non custodial parent VOLUNTARILY provides for his/her child/children OUTSIDE of any child support agency/department, find themselves hit with a state issued order of support, backed by the court, simply because the custodial parent felt voluntary support was insufficient and wants/thinks he/she can get more.

I have an order of support which I have been paying for nearly 17 years now. I had a lawyer tell me flat out that the child support system, itAS IT IS PRESENTLY, is an extortion racket, especially the aspect in which the state holds the non custodial parent SOLELY responsible for government assistance the custodial parent received/receives.




[Edited 8/27/2017 8:51:13 AM ]

8/27/17 9:07 AM 

enigmaathand
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Leavittsburg, OH


Quote from pbsback:
Unless the WOMAN receiving the child support is greedy and wants the money..
Fixed that for you, because fathers RARELY get custody(80-83% of ALL single parent households are headed by the skank), and even when they do get custody, they are often awarded much less(if ANY) child support requirements from the skank(and it is even worse if you go in front of a WOMAN family court judge).

Watched a lazy, entitled b*tch nail my best friend for $832/month, while using her "Single Mother Card" to force ME to indirectly pay for her nursing school/license, while she used that $832 a month in "support" for buying a brand new 2015 Chevy Equinox. She even had the nerve to look my best friend, right in the eyes, and say, "I'm not using Child Support to try and f**k you over."

I will not get into the thoughts of what I wanted to say to that lying wh*re, right then and there.........

She was lucky, that I know my friend would have beat MY a** for telling her off, because he is that kinda guy. He loves her and she abuses that privilege, like a typical lying, lazy, entitled skank


8/27/17 9:16 AM 

enigmaathand
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Leavittsburg, OH


Quote from xman379:
Problem is, the non custodial parent usually has little to no influence as to whether or not the state is involved.

Typically what happens is the custodial parent (typically the mother) questions the non custodial parent's fitness as a parent (typically the father) or is just plain selfish or spiteful and decides to cut the non custodial parent out of the child's life, attempting to raise the child/children independently.

Of course, the custodial parent usually learns pretty quickly that raising a child or children INDEPENDENTLY is a rather difficult task, financially. Once faced with this difficulty the custodial parent typically seeks GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE and it is at THIS point the non custodial parents LOSES ALL say in whether the state is involved.

When a custodial parent receives government assistance, the NON CUSTODIAL parent is SOLELY responsible for repayment of the assistance amount.

MANY non custodial parents (again, typically men) have found themselves in DEBT to state governments due to government assistance to women who have children that the men didn't even know were their children or even existed.

In many other cases, where the non custodial parent VOLUNTARILY provides for his/her child/children OUTSIDE of any child support agency/department, find themselves hit with a state issued order of support, backed by the court, simply because the custodial parent felt voluntary support was insufficient and wants/thinks he/she can get more.

I have an order of support which I have been paying for nearly 17 years now. I had a lawyer tell me flat out that the child support system, itAS IT IS PRESENTLY, is an extortion racket, especially the aspect in which the state holds the non custodial parent SOLELY responsible for government assistance the custodial parent received/receives.
Yep. The second a woman is approved for GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE(meaning extortion of the working class), the State AUTOMATICALLY determines a child support amount and files the order against the father.

My sister applied for medical, during her first pregnancy with my first nephew. She was living(unmarried at that time) with my now brother-in-law.

The State of Ohio AUTOMATICALLY began garnishing his wages from him.

She had to go down to the family courts and show proof of residency and get the order removed, since he was supporting her already, it was just that his medical insurance didn't cover her because they weren't married.

Oh, and Xman, read up on THIS LAW.

OHIO is the ONLY state, where such a law even exists.



: Ohio Revised Code



3109.042 Custody rights of unmarried mother.




(A) An unmarried female who gives birth to a child is the sole residential parent and legal custodian of the child until a court of competent jurisdiction issues an order designating another person as the residential parent and legal custodian. A court designating the residential parent and legal custodian of a child described in this section shall treat the mother and father as standing upon an equality when making the designation.


You think it is bad, in VA? In Ohio, being a "Career Mom" has an entirely whole new meaning and context because of this "fair and equal gender rights" law....


8/27/17 9:19 AM 

enigmaathand
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And all my male friends have told me, I would be the one to regret never having any children........

And while not being able to have children certainly creates a huge barrier for the woman I think about at night before I go to bed, and the same woman I wake up wondering about, I certainly do not loathe my situation as much as most of them do, now that they have children and support orders slapped on them.


8/27/17 9:30 AM 

xman379
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Richmond, VA

Well, at least in Ohio the mother is "granted" ANY legal custody of the child/children from birth.

In many states, including Virginia, children are LEGALLY in STATE custody from birth until a parent formally requests for legal custody.


8/27/17 9:59 AM 

enigmaathand
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I would rather have VA's or MA's laws, personally.

Trust me, Ohio WOMEN KNOW they get full custody, no matter what, when they are unmarried and get knocked up.

This is why 75% of households with children, in Ohio, are single parent households.

The friend, that shot himself in my garage, had a son with an ex girlfriend from high school. She already had one kid, from another guy, when she got knocked up by him.

As of last I heard, she now has a total of THREE and all THREE are from different daddies. She works as a waitress, last I heard.

And she is the daughter of a preacher, in fact she used the "God" crap against my friend, because he owned the Satanic Bible and claimed to be a Satanist to keep his son away from him.

Now that he is dead, she has been overheard saying how she regrets having done that to him.

You can guess how much sympathy I have for her, after I was the one that got to come home from work and find his cold, lifeless corpse with a bullet wound in the front of his forehead......

If that woman were so concerned about how bad her situation was, she would have taken better precautions to not get pregnant so many times, but see, she knows she gets the kids no matter what, and she gets "rewarded" by the state and courts, so her behavior continues down the same path.

And I see men go through this on a regular basis. Not all of them commit suicide, like my friend did, but they certainly go through the same shit he did.


8/27/17 10:06 AM 

Suzhi
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Quote from enigmaathand:
I would rather have VA's or MA's laws, personally.

Trust me, Ohio WOMEN KNOW they get full custody, no matter what, when they are unmarried and get knocked up.

This is why 75% of households with children, in Ohio, are single parent households.

The friend, that shot himself in my garage, had a son with an ex girlfriend from high school. She already had one kid, from another guy, when she got knocked up by him.

As of last I heard, she now has a total of THREE and all THREE are from different daddies. She works as a waitress, last I heard.

And she is the daughter of a preacher, in fact she used the "God" crap against my friend, because he owned the Satanic Bible and claimed to be a Satanist to keep his son away from him.

Now that he is dead, she has been overheard saying how she regrets having done that to him.

You can guess how much sympathy I have for her, after I was the one that got to come home from work and find his cold, lifeless corpse with a bullet wound in the front of his forehead......

If that woman were so concerned about how bad her situation was, she would have taken better precautions to not get pregnant so many times, but see, she knows she gets the kids no matter what, and she gets "rewarded" by the state and courts, so her behavior continues down the same path.

And I see men go through this on a regular basis. Not all of them commit suicide, like my friend did, but they certainly go through the same shit he did.



A friend shouldn't do you like that... You can go anywhere to shoot yourself.. Make somebody else clean that mess up...


8/27/17 10:38 AM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from M4mischief:
I don't have to reach...its the truth...the only reason the court gets involved at all is usually because the parties cant or wont come to an agreement and only one parent is supporting the kids....
the supporting your own child comment you made is reaching


8/27/17 10:41 AM 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from enigmaathand:
I would rather have VA's or MA's laws, personally.

Trust me, Ohio WOMEN KNOW they get full custody, no matter what, when they are unmarried and get knocked up.

This is why 75% of households with children, in Ohio, are single parent households.

The friend, that shot himself in my garage, had a son with an ex girlfriend from high school. She already had one kid, from another guy, when she got knocked up by him.

As of last I heard, she now has a total of THREE and all THREE are from different daddies. She works as a waitress, last I heard.

And she is the daughter of a preacher, in fact she used the "God" crap against my friend, because he owned the Satanic Bible and claimed to be a Satanist to keep his son away from him.

Now that he is dead, she has been overheard saying how she regrets having done that to him.

You can guess how much sympathy I have for her, after I was the one that got to come home from work and find his cold, lifeless corpse with a bullet wound in the front of his forehead......

If that woman were so concerned about how bad her situation was, she would have taken better precautions to not get pregnant so many times, but see, she knows she gets the kids no matter what, and she gets "rewarded" by the state and courts, so her behavior continues down the same path.

And I see men go through this on a regular basis. Not all of them commit suicide, like my friend did, but they certainly go through the same shit he did.
as the old saying.....
What goes up must come down....
I don't feel bad for her at all


8/27/17 12:09 PM 

packersbabe920
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Quote from xman379:
Problem is, the non custodial parent usually has little to no influence as to whether or not the state is involved.

Typically what happens is the custodial parent (typically the mother) questions the non custodial parent's fitness as a parent (typically the father) or is just plain selfish or spiteful and decides to cut the non custodial parent out of the child's life, attempting to raise the child/children independently.

Of course, the custodial parent usually learns pretty quickly that raising a child or children INDEPENDENTLY is a rather difficult task, financially. Once faced with this difficulty the custodial parent typically seeks GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE and it is at THIS point the non custodial parents LOSES ALL say in whether the state is involved.

When a custodial parent receives government assistance, the NON CUSTODIAL parent is SOLELY responsible for repayment of the assistance amount.

MANY non custodial parents (again, typically men) have found themselves in DEBT to state governments due to government assistance to women who have children that the men didn't even know were their children or even existed.

In many other cases, where the non custodial parent VOLUNTARILY provides for his/her child/children OUTSIDE of any child support agency/department, find themselves hit with a state issued order of support, backed by the court, simply because the custodial parent felt voluntary support was insufficient and wants/thinks he/she can get more.

I have an order of support which I have been paying for nearly 17 years now. I had a lawyer tell me flat out that the child support system, itAS IT IS PRESENTLY, is an extortion racket, especially the aspect in which the state holds the non custodial parent SOLELY responsible for government assistance the custodial parent received/receives.



I agree


8/27/17 12:11 PM 

enigmaathand
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Leavittsburg, OH


Quote from Suzhi:
A friend shouldn't do you like that... You can go anywhere to shoot yourself.. Make somebody else clean that mess up...
I don't think he actually thought about that. The coroner's report shows he had scarring from lacerations on both arms. I often have wondered if he premeditatedly moved back in, just so he would have access to guns. He was a friend for 7 years, so he knew I had guns and that I kept the 9mm near my bed.


8/27/17 12:15 PM 

enigmaathand
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Leavittsburg, OH


Quote from dark_gable0585:
as the old saying.....
What goes up must come down....
I don't feel bad for her at all
And neither do I. When a mutual friend told me she was in the stages of regret, I responded with, "Good. She should be regretful. Maybe it will teach her a lesson."

I would love to say I don't hate her, because I barely know her. All I can say, SHE is one, out of the majority of women, that are living proof that what I say about women is true. Women, like her, are why WOMEN hate me. Not because of what I say and how I say it, but because they know I speak the truth.

"No man is hated more, than he who speaks the truth." - Plato


8/27/17 12:23 PM 

progrocknic
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Child support laws can be pretty harsh. In NJ, if you try to get a fishing license and you own child support, you're in big trouble. There's pretty much no getting out of it. I understand why it's so harsh, as kids need to be supported by the people who created the child, but laws that harsh are also easily taken advantage of. It's tough to find a balance that actually benefits the child without negative consequences to his parents.

Of course, the easy solution would be to not get a chick pregnant. Once it gets to that point, you're boned.


8/27/17 1:30 PM 

jinxthejuvy11
Over 4,000 Posts! (7,424)
Philadelphia, PA

Quote from enigmaathand:
Child Support is nothing more than a LEGALIZED form of SLAVERY, that ONLY affects MEN
If you dead beat dads took care of your illegitimate kids the government wouldn't make you have to...


8/27/17 1:40 PM 

xman379
Over 2,000 Posts (2,844)
Richmond, VA

Quote from progrocknic:
Child support laws can be pretty harsh. In NJ, if you try to get a fishing license and you own child support, you're in big trouble. There's pretty much no getting out of it. I understand why it's so harsh, as kids need to be supported by the people who created the child, but laws that harsh are also easily taken advantage of. It's tough to find a balance that actually benefits the child without negative consequences to his parents.

Of course, the easy solution would be to not get a chick pregnant. Once it gets to that point, you're boned.


The laws DON'T HAVE to be harsh, just FAIR.

I stated earlier that discrepancies in support obligation determinations in many states are unconstitutional, because they use schedules (charts) that impose ARBITRARY support obligations based on GROSS incomes, as opposed to basing support obligations on ACTUAL child care costs.

This is WHY you see celebrities or wealthy people paying OUTRAGEOUS amounts of monthly child support.

Unless a child has some special needs that greatly increase care costs, it shouldn't cost more than $200, MAYBE $300 per month in support for one child.

Of course that would gradually increase as the child/children get older.

The support obligations are SUPPOSED to or SHOULD be determined by figuring out what the actual child care cost will be or is and dividing that into 2 halves, each parent responsible for a half of the cost.

As it is PRESENTLY in many states, the non custodial parent is typically responsible for MORE than half of child care cost determination by a support enforcement office, even if the custodial parent earns more.

I KNOW, I've been there.

Rent and utilities are givens, as an individual who has his/her own place would pay that even without kids and if not, should be considered unfit to have physical custody of any children. The exception being the difference between a 1 & 2 bedroom home for the custodial parent, IF he/she lives in a 2 bedroom home AFTER having established custody of the child/children.


8/27/17 2:03 PM 

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Quote from enigmaathand:
And neither do I. When a mutual friend told me she was in the stages of regret, I responded with, "Good. She should be regretful. Maybe it will teach her a lesson."

I would love to say I don't hate her, because I barely know her. All I can say, SHE is one, out of the majority of women, that are living proof that what I say about women is true. Women, like her, are why WOMEN hate me. Not because of what I say and how I say it, but because they know I speak the truth.

"No man is hated more, than he who speaks the truth." - Plato
and facts as well as living proof speaks volumes


8/27/17 2:13 PM 

easttowest72
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The men don't want to be bothered by their children. A lot couldn't careless if their kids starved. The crying a** men should get fixed. Not rocket science.

8/27/17 3:01 PM 

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Quote from easttowest72:
The men don't want to be bothered by their children. A lot couldn't careless if their kids starved. The crying a** men should get fixed. Not rocket science.
lol spoken like a true feminist


8/27/17 3:03 PM 

easttowest72
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I thought feminist want to do everything alone. You are confused. Black men don't work anyway. They have Atleast 6 kids and don't stay out of prison lone enough to pay support.

8/27/17 3:17 PM 

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Quote from easttowest72:
The men don't want to be bothered by their children. A lot couldn't careless if their kids starved. The crying a** men should get fixed. Not rocket science.


First of all, you're generalizing that men, don't care about their children, that's just NOT true. YES, there ARE MANY men who don't care about their children, but MOST men care about their children and make efforts to provide for and guide their children.

It only becomes a problem when either the man never wanted a child to begin with and the woman decides to give birth to the child anyway, or when the WOMAN decides the father is no longer welcome in the child's/children's life/lives.

People shouldn't be so quick to just say "men should get fixed...".

The system is corrupt to begin with and then we have manipulative parents who abuse the corrupted system to their advantage, even at the detriment of the other parent or even the child in many cases.

It would be inthe CHILD'S best interest that BOTH parents be able to provide for themselves with dignity and respect.

If the custodial parent is living large, benefiting from child support, while the non custodial parent is struggling to survive as a result of child support, it creates a situation where one parent is unfairly favored over the other.

Example, a young child would probably prefer NOT to visit a non custodial parent who can only afford a small efficiency apartment, thus inadequate playing space for the child and can't afford luxuries like gifts and outings.

Regardless to how great a personality the non custodial parent may have, in most cases, the child in such a situation will favor the parent who has more financial means.

Not good for anyone, because it creates feelings of inferiority and resentment in the non custodial parent, which is often taken out on not just the custodial parent, but the child as well.




[Edited 8/27/2017 3:17:54 PM ]

8/27/17 3:19 PM 

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Quote from easttowest72:
I thought feminist want to do everything alone. You are confused. Black men don't work anyway. They have Atleast 6 kids and don't stay out of prison lone enough to pay support.
also a racist too


8/27/17 3:20 PM 

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Quote from easttowest72:
I thought feminist want to do everything alone. You are confused. Black men don't work anyway. They have Atleast 6 kids and don't stay out of prison lone enough to pay support.
that's why your man left you


8/27/17 3:28 PM 

easttowest72
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Most blacks don't even know who their dad is. I had a woman tell me her baby daddy had 5 kids with 6 different women.

8/27/17 3:42 PM 

thechino
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Good thing I don't have any kids. Whew. Don't need the agony, don't want the drama. Cheerio.

8/27/17 4:34 PM 

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Quote from easttowest72:
Most blacks don't even know who their dad is. I had a woman tell me her baby daddy had 5 kids with 6 different women.
wow.....no facts just hearsay


8/27/17 5:17 PM 

easttowest72
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Well she was arguing on the phone with one of the other baby mama. They were picking up each others kids. I'm guessing the man was worthless.

8/27/17 5:30 PM 

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Quote from easttowest72:
Well she was arguing on the phone with one of the other baby mama. They were picking up each others kids. I'm guessing the man was worthless.
i rest my case.....your ex left you for a good reason


8/27/17 6:19 PM 

easttowest72
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I rest my case. Don't have kids that you don't want to take care of.

8/27/17 6:38 PM 

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Quote from easttowest72:
I rest my case. Don't have kids that you don't want to take care of.
i don't have kids so your comment is irrelevant


8/27/17 6:41 PM 

easttowest72
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Well you are conserned and opinionated for something you no nothing about.